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By: John

John — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 18:32:46 +0000

@g1smd – thanks for posting the links! I’ve got a lot of respect for SEOmoz and completely agree with their stuff!

@Sean – thanks for the kind comment, and excellent point – glad I’m not the only one who’s witnessed such blatant disregard for what I can only think to call ‘trading standards’ ?

@Michael – That’s what I call it too ;) see:
http://www.eggrage.co.uk/real-seo-is-not-spam/

By: Michael Martinez

Michael Martinez — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 17:34:51 +0000

” Link building is the process of going out onto the big wide interwebz and dropping links back to a website wherever possible. Most commonly on blog comments, forums, and business directories.”

Hm. We call that SPAMMING on our side of the pond. Not to mention the fact that a lot of those links won’t pass value.

Interesting post nonetheless.

By: Sean

Sean — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:33:29 +0000

Great post. We’ve been getting a lot more SEO work lately (we are primarily designers/developers), and almost all of our current SEO clients have been burned by one or many of these things at some time.

We try to take as pragmatic an approach as possible and let the results speak for themselves. Itemized lists of what was done to achieve those results always seemed like a no-brainer to me—would you let your mechanic charge you to “make your car run better” without telling you what he did?

By: g1smd

g1smd — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:13:32 +0000

How about this for a tactic that is still being used by companies at the scummier end of the spectrum, as well as a few that should know better:

http://www.seomoz.org/ugc/guaranteed-rankings-methodology-of-a-shady-business-tactic

Nasty, eh?

Kudos for SEOmoz outing it, and also publishing stuff about how things should really be done:

http://www.seomoz.org/ugc/small-business-seo-its-about-education-and-empowerment

By: John

John — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 11:13:40 +0000

@Daniel – completely agree with you, and what you said is actually the subject of my next post this evening!

@Justin – couldn’t have said it better myself

@Simon – yep, completely with you there and really appreciate the kind comment! :)

By: Simon Bondar

Simon Bondar — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 09:26:41 +0000

I’ve worked for people like the above. It’s pretty depressing when you know they are being taken for a ride. Luckly that is not the case anymore (as I’ve since moved on).

But these articles are great, and a great source inspiration in our own SEO campaigns.

By: Justin Leaf-Wright

Justin Leaf-Wright — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 09:05:54 +0000

Brilliant post…

Deadbeat SEO companies should be NUKED of the planet.

By: Daniel

Daniel — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 07:32:47 +0000

I agree with you about link dropping, but I don’t really think its work that can be done period. Most blogs have nofollow on their commenting systems, and when google finds you on a farm they make you *pay*. I believe SEO companies are mostly worthless anyways, if you have good content, and a well structured website Google is designed to do the work for you!

By: John

John — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 23:18:21 +0000

Thanks guys,

@Seth – Thing is with design and development you can SEE what work has been done and there are specific rights and wrongs when it comes to how stuff is done. Seo is so ambiguous that it gets away with a lot more.

@Spencer – Agree 100% transparency and honesty is the only way to really succeed.

By: Spencer Lavery

Spencer Lavery — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 22:53:08 +0000

I love how you hold no punches. I worked for a company that were guilty of pretty much all of the above once, am very glad to not have to bullshit clients anymore.

Bottom line is, if things aren’t completely transparent, someone’s hiding something.

By: Seth

Seth — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 22:15:10 +0000

Great Post John. It’s so very true that there are a lot of SEO companies out there that aren’t good. It’s the same with Web design companies. Anyone can say they are one but only a few are good enough to actually be one.

By: EggManJohn (EggManJohn)

EggManJohn (EggManJohn) — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 22:05:36 +0000

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